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in chicago, and house speaker john boehner was already hinting at another major fight in congress over taxes and spending. >> in order to garner republican support for new revenues, the president must be willing to reduce spending and shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers. mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> president obama will make a statement tomorrow in the east room. the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes kicked in january 1st if washington can't reach a deal. a lot of people fear it's going to be a repeat of what happened in 2011 when the republicans 4e8d the debt ceiling hostage to get what they wanted. but thing, i guess, you could say are a bit different. we are two days removed from a landslide victory, as well as a new 55-45 democratic senate majority. the president is also the winner of the popular vote. did you hear that, republicans? winner of the popular vote with the majority of the country supporting him. the only area in government where the democrats fell shot was in the co

, we have the president winning re-election. we have john boehner returning to the speakership. harry reid returning. to being the senate majority leader. and while the status quo was the big winner last tuesday, the history books will not remember the names john boehner and harry reid as long as they will remember what this re-election meant for president barack obama. >> that's exactly right. it is a ratification. it is an affirmation historically. you could argue that maybe one of the reasons he's crying is he's going to have to deal with john boehner and harry reid going forward. so there could be a very practical trigger there. but certainly, i mean, what mike and john have said is exactly right. it's an important moment. he's the third democrat, fourth democrat, to do this in a century. woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, bill clinton and barack obama. not bad company to be in. >> by the way, i heard you say that on wednesday morning. who was the democrat -- the last democrat before that to do it? >> well -- >> that's a test. >> -- that is a test. >> jackson? >> i guess it would

country. >> i want to follow up that question and ask neera real quick -- john boehner expressed openness to reductions in spending, reforms, but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid, as the ryan budget would do. where do you think that goes after the election? >> i think the president really crossed the rubicon there by putting medicare and medicaid on the table. neera mentioned the budget -- hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts. romney tried to put it back in. i thought it was very ironic. social security? no, it has not been on the table. i think he has already done so and i suspect he will continue to. >> one of the interesting things about that -- we will go to the audience in a minute -- think of the context. medicare is one of the policies that transfers resources down the generational ladder. from the retiring baby boom that is 80% white and moving it into an uninsured younger population, it really in many ways -- the federal government has $700 per capita, something like that -- is striking that under such explicit attack, for kind

to tuesday's election results continues in washington. join us. house speaker john boehner will hold a news conference for it later this afternoon, president obama will speak to the nation. we expect him to speak about the upcoming fiscal cliff. that will be live at 1:05 eastern c-span. j kearney has a briefing schedule that is set for 2:00 p.m. eastern. >> if there is a mandate, is a mandate for us to face the challenges we face. in the weeks and months ahead, we faced a series of challenges and great opportunity. >> the american people want us to work together. they want a balanced approach to everything but especially with the huge deficit and taxes. >> the newly elected congress starts work in january. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff including the expiration of the bush era tax cuts and possible cuts to domestic and military spending. fall all the debates with live house coverage on c-span and the senate on c-span2. there was a conference yesterday. pollsters participated in a town discussion that talked about economic efforts and how this affects lobbying in the lame- du

guest: john boehner said he was looking for a golf game with the president. i do not know, talking to the obama campaign during the election, they were confronting an angry set of voters, even those who supported them. the theatrics in washington -- we have heard a lot of callers talk about this. i don't know if they have a place right now. this is an extremely urgent thing they have to address. it could have real consequences on recovery, really end it, and i do not think we will see a lot of that. i do not think the president wants to strike that tone. i think it will be pretty serious. it does not mean they will not try to get together in some kind of setting, but i do not think it will be seen the light it was in summer 2011. host: we want to thank our two white house reporters. thank you both for being here. that does it for today's "washington journal." we will be back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. with more of your questions and comments via phone and twitter. thanks for watching. host: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satell

fearing that whatever they do to help him will actually help him get re-elected. john boehner has 230-plus members, but 230-plus members that were re-elected because they didn't compromise. i think what we're seeing is they set up their public positions and then they'll have to do the real work behind the scenes. they're posturing things they know they have to move off of. there's been some warning in terms of whether tax rates go up. the president talked about revenue which is important because if you sa have a come prea hencive tax field you can get the new money by getting rid of some the deductions and the loopholes. so they are finding ways an they might raise $250,000. there are ways you can find a deal here. >> how much of this is the short-term especially is everybody trying to figure out what they can get away with? i've been where one side or the other say let's get together. and they be they find out, oh, may we don't have to. >> both sides are trying to present themselves as the most reasonable guy in the room. >> that's exactly what boehner said. >> exactly. i'm quoting here.

, that $1.6 trillion, is twice the amount of revenue that he and boehner put on the table last summer. it's a clear sign to the left that the president has stopped beginning his negotiations from the middle ground, something democrats have often complained about with this president. afl-cio president said he's confident that the president is not going to fold. >> the president led with that notion of protecting the middle class. are we going to collectively stand up and make sure that workers get a fair shake in all of this? absolutely we are. do we believe that the president is committed to that same thing? absolutely we do. will the president show today he's willing to go over the fiscal cliff if reboundians don't make the deal they are satisfied with. in a new pew poll, 50% will not reach an agreement in time. 53% are assuming republicans will be more to blame if no deal is struck. but yesterday minority leader mitch mcconnell, who met with the three gop freshmen, new senators, will join the repub c republican conference, struck a hard line when it came to tax rates. >> in politics th

. speaker boehner said tax hikes aren't acceptable. president obama said that he won't sign any extension for tax hikes on the wealthy. senator mcconnell the republican leader in senate said that he won't raise taxes to turn off those spending cuts. if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't bend, do you still believe the president should go right up to the brink and over the fiscal cliff? >> here we are, our country has a tremendous debt and deficit problem. we also have a challenge in making sure that we educate our workforce, we need to make sure we care for our veterans who need that care today. we need to have research and we need to be able to compete in a global marketplace, those investments are important. everyone who has looked at this, including the supercommittee that i served on, said we need to have revenue as part of the solution to this problem as well as looking at entitlements and spending cuts. what has been the missing ingredient in congress to date is revenue and make sure that it's fairly distributed and the wealthy pay their fair share. that's what we face right

quo. asking the two to work together as house speaker john boehner put it the day after the election. >> the american people have spoken. they reelected president obama. they have again reelected a republican majority in the house of representatives. if there's a mandate in yesterday's results, it's a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges we all face as a nation. >> the other way to interpret the results is to see them as a resounding liberal governance. a larger and apparently more democratic majority in the senate. it's how harry reid framed the results. >> we had an overwhelming re-election of the president. we picked up seats in the senate and the house. it's not the status quo. >> one thing is clear. it will not look like any congress we have ever had. the most stunning exacten is the diminishing number of white men in house of representatives. in the current house, white men were 88% compared to 53% in the caucus. for the first time ever in history, white men will make up just a minority, 46% of the democratic caucus. women will make u

, these votes are going to be even more relevant in the future. >host: >> next, president obama and john boehner talk about the fiscal cliff. after that, the white house press briefing with jay carney. >> president obama says that tuesday's elections show that most americans agree with the deficit reduction plan. the president has invited presidential leaders to discuss the deficit and warned about the potential effects of the fiscal cliff. that is this series of tax increases and budget cuts that take effect in january if congress does not act. the president addressed an audience from the white house east room. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> ladies and gentlemen, the president and the vice president of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. everybody, please have a seat. thank you. good afternoon, everybody. now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it is tim

of them voted democratic and half of them live in hollywood. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in tax rates. he would raise revenues by closing loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger deep spending cuts and tax cuts. that could mean $2,000 more in taxes for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly, another recession. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain, 4 trillion in debt reduction. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is, uncriminaled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy, if the standoff drags on. >> three or four weeks from now, they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the anxiety and the nervousness growing in the markets and the corporate board rooms

cliff. -- and john boehner talked about the fiscal flat. president obama will be at the riesling say -- wreath laying ceremony 11 am eastern on c- span. >> 2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax and form an entitlement reform. i propose we avert the fiscal cliff together in a manner that ensures the 2013 is the year are government comes to grips with the major problems facing us. >> i am open to compromise. i am open to new ideas. i am committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but, i did used to expect -- except in the approach that is not balanced. i will not ask students and seniors and middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes kerry >> the newly elected congress starts work and to january but the current congress has work to do at the end of the year. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff, x -- including the expiration of the bush eric tax cuts, raising the debt ceiling implant gus to domestic and military spending. loorow all the florida th debates. >>

not sure they're totally getting the memo. i have speaker boehner talking about the fact that as they approach january, they're not going to vote for anything that puts additional tax revenue on the table. if you are in fact right, which i believe you were, that could be the number one takeaway beyond demographics. then you look at the tea party element, you know, only 4 of the 16 candidates endorsed by the tea party expressed one in this election. so they should be able to marginalize that element, not simply cave to it at every turn. >> but is it at 134 level, richard they delusional politics, i think it was bush in '88, not reagan. but isn't it delusional when they say, no we're not going to raise taxes when in fact if the tax cuts -- the bush tax cuts expire, it's the same thing? i mean, is somebody going to send them a memo that you don't have the same climate you had last year, because all the president has to do is let the bush tax cuts expire. >> there are three cards on the table, two of them republicans cannot stand -- letting all the tax cuts expire, and these

are all in this together, boehner comes out the next day, yes, we can work this out, but over time, the reality is still up to very different parties with very different values, very different constituencies, and when republicans starts to get to squishy or a democrat starts to move to the middle, they get pounded on. shawn hannity, rush limbaugh, and shultz, and rachel matskmad. i started seeing earlier, getting e-mails from the pccc, which is the progressive change campaign committee, which saw the success of 2010 on the right and said we could do the same thing on the left. there is just more and more movement on the extremes, demanding in the party faithful to stay faithful. we still have primaries and republicans have to figure out a way to avoid tied aid in -- todd akins and richard mourdocks. there is no increase in the christine o'donnell vote, the witch vote. the republicans had five seats in the last two cycles for the have sacrificed a seat by nominating sharon engle and christine o'donnell, and now the two this time. republicans are going to have to figure out how to do

that obammal triangulate, moderate? >> i agree. >> sean: i am looking at john boehner tonight. i am thinking, he was the headline on abc world news, boehner exclusive, raising taxes, new revenue on the table. why is he caving when obama is the one who needs this deal more than anybody? why is he caving before it starts? >> he is caving because he knows there has to be a deal. the market was down 4 50 points in two days? >> that's the pressure on obama. >> but after an election that you lose, the american people want conciliation. center-right country doesn't mean-- >>> we there to go. >> i don't think we lost the election. we held the congress. >> same thing. >> sean: all of this process, we are in the same boat we were in before. >> $300 billion-- >>> $6 trillion in new obama debt. harry reid took his victory lap and delivered some disturbing remarks, he has ideas about limiting republicans' ability to oppose democratic initiatives in the senate. are we looking at serious abuse of power? will he be successful? will republicans hold the line? that's all coming up. how can you get back pain r

speaker john boehner say they are willing to negotiate. but tax hikes are a sticking point. president obama will meet with congressional leaders on the issue next week. >>> and in florida, it is all over, but the vote count, as the state tries to finalize its tally of the presidential election. unofficial results are due to the secretary of state by noon today. cnn has yet to project a winner, but president obama enjoys a 60,000 vote lead over mitt romney. >>> happy birthday to all the men and women serving in the marines around the world. today marks the 237th anniversary for the u.s. marine corps. they were founded in 1775. now, to celebrate, some will have birthday cake, some will hold special ceremonies, others will raise money for charity. >>> in washington state, prosecutors are throwing out 175 marijuana possession cases, that's because on tuesday voters there passed a ballot initiative that legalizes pot, so prosecutors in two counties, including seattle, drop cases that would no longer be punishable under the new law. the law technically doesn't take effect, though, until nex

to deficit reduction, that does not ask the wealth tow pay more taxes. speaker boehner, the republican speaker of the house, has already said that's a nonstarter. aren't we right back where we were last year? >> well, i don't think so, bob, for a am could you have reasons. first of all, i think the speaker also said he wasn't going to get into details about what he would or wouldn't accept. he didn't want to foreclose discussions, and that was a positive sign. his rhetoric has been encouraging. and i think we have also had an intervening election, and in fact the position of the president articulated friday was the position that he's articulated throughout the campaign. you look at those exit polls, and a healthy majority of americans agree with him. and that's certainly going to help him form these discussions. >> schieffer: the president won, but this was a very close victory. and it came down to those battleground states. and it was close even there. does the president feel that won a mandate? >> well, bob, on this particular issue, it wasn't close. as i said, if you look at the exi

and that might help things a little bit in terms of the negotiation. i would love to see how the obama-boehner golf game part two might go because boehner now has to make a choice. he has a alaska, and he is kind of a deal maker by natural inclination. he has to figure out what his 230-some-odd members took away from this election. how many of relexingtonned tea party type members feel they were sent to washington because they refused to comexprms how many are available for the new kind of compromise necessary to get a grand bargain. where he lands is the most interesting question to me. >> schieffer: what happens next, david? let's just talk about this. unless they find some compromise here, you're going to see these horrendous across-the-board cuts in defense and social programs. you're also going to see these tax cuts expire, which means everybody gets a tax increase. do you think they can do it before the end of the year? or will they just kick it down the road? >> i think they can find a way to postpone the fiscal cliff for another six months a year. i think that's certainly doable becaus

away to send a signal that cooperation and compromise is possible. >> speaker boehner has made it clear even though he said that he would put revenue on the table that he would not increase rates. so does the president believe that you can achieve the revenue goals that he wants and increase the effective rate of what wealthy americans are paying without necessarily increasing the marginle rate? >> let's be clear about two things. all of the bush tax cuts are expairing on january 1. it's important that the american people understand that. if congress does not act everyone's taxes go up, everyone's. to avoid that, the house needs to pass the bill that the senate already passed so that 98% of the american people will not have their taxes go up. separate from that the president has long endorsed and supported the idea of reforming our tax code. in fact, in his speech on tuesday night he said in the coming weeks and months imlooking forward to working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together, reducing our deficit reforming our tax code and freeing ourse

and john boehner and barack obama can work together. >> jennifer: with all these slings and arrows, she knows it's not about her. >> that's the biggest lesson in politics, you have to be bigger than yourself. >> jennifer: christine, thank you so much, my dear. up next, hunger is everywhere even where you least expect it. after the break we're going to visit an elementary school that is trying to feed the need in an unlikely county. part of our series on hunger. it's a story that you'll when we think of hunger we often picture people in the third world. >> many americans don't realize that the problem exists right here in our own country. >> it's an issue that ultimately effects each and every one of us. >> thats why current is stepping up. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >>... feeding the needy. >> for an entire week we'll explore hunger, malnutrition even obesity. >> ... and offer solutions. >> so join us here at current tv where together, we'll feed the needy. >> brought to you by the all new doge dart. >> doge: new rules. [ ♪ theme music â

into hands because we are sick of it. and, you know, what i would like to tell john boehner is don't give in to this craziness. this is nothing but craziness. and i watched harry reid yesterday. you know, he talked and he talked and he really said nothing. then he went on about dance, dance, dance and i thought to myself all you do is dance around with these bills that they send. the house will have a bill, they send it to the senate and what does he do? dances around it and never addresses it. >> host: know by partisanship than for you? >> caller: no, absolutely none. then when he left the stage and was walking off, the man -- i feel bad for him that he just can't get it together -- he grabbed ahold of the flag. he was falling. then he grabbed ahold of low wall and at that point i said uh oh that man needs to go home. he's too old to be there. he doesn't do his job and is collecting a big paycheck. >> host: we covered that news conference. you probably watched it on c-span, go over to the site, c-span.org if you want to watch the entire press conference with senate majority leader harry

, it will not happen. >> then boehner sensing blood in the water says these guys, i guess they're going to let me push them around again said this: >> racing taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given our economy. when you look at the president's proposal half of the people who would get hit with higher taxes or file as individuals. >> is it on the table to talk about? because the campaign, 60% of the voters have said that they are ready to raise these taxes. they are ready to have the wealthy americans pitch in here. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> bill: so here we are right back at it again encouraged by the weakness the departments immediately show, here comes boehner again saying unacceptal. what is unacceptable is how washington continues to screw over the american class. allen grayson was a former congressman and future congressman. great to have you here. talk to me about the grand bargain, as it's currently structured are you for or against it? >> entirely against it. there is a book called the shock doctrine. this is an article official shock, being introduced to

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wealthy americans to pay more taxes. in a republican address, joan boehner says taxes shouldn't go up for anyone but they reform tax laws and entitlement programs. a short time ago. governor mitt romney sending a first message on his election to speak. tweet reads from the bottom of our hearts i thank you for your support, effort prayers and vote. we are grateful to every one of you. i'm arthel nevil. we'll get you back to fox news watch. log on to foxnews.com. i'll be back here at 6:00 p.m. eastern alongside rick folbaum. i hope to see you then. >> mr. president, this morning, you went out of your way to avoid the use of word terrorism in connection with the libya attack. do you believe this was a terrorist attack? >> it's too early to know how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously, it was an attack on americans. we are going to be working with the libyan government to make sure we bring these folks to justice one way or the other. >> it's been described as a mob action. there are reports they were very heavily armed, with grenades. doesn't sound like a normal demon

was together, then she and john boehner and barack obama can work together. >> jennifer: with all these slings and arrows, she knows it's not about her. >> that's the biggest lesson in politics, you have to be bigger than yourself. >> jennifer: christine, thank you so much, my dear. up next, hunger is everywhere even where you least expect it. after the break we're going to visit an elementary school that is trying to feed the need in an unlikely county. part of our series on hunger. it's a story that you'll only find in the war room on current tv. [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? yea we'll split it. [ female announcer ] made fresh, so light buttery and flakey. that's half that's not half! guys, i have more! thanks mom [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents. let the making begin the saying easy as pie? i get it now. just unroll it fill, top, bake, and present. that must have taken you forever! it was really tough. [ female announcer ] pillsbury pie crust. let the making begin [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: one in five kids in our count

. they weren't fighting for the top jobs. that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burt

boehner pledged to negotiate in good faith. >> the american people want us to work together. republicans and democrats want us to work together. they want a balanced approach to everything, but especially the situation we have dealing with this huge deficit and taxes that are part of that. >> there is an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff. it involves making real changes to the financial structure of entitlement programs and reforming our tax code to curb special interest loopholes and deductions. by working together and creating a simpler, cleaner tax code, we give our country a stronger, healthier economy. >> powerful winter storm again has blasted the northeast, bringing wet snow and strong winds to areas already devastated by last week's superstorm sandy. tens of thousands of homes and businesses lost power along the east coast from the carolinas to new york on wednesday, joining the more than half a million customers who still remain without power in sandy's wake. concerns were raised the storm could relief -- threatening relief effort in some of the hardest-hit polls. meanw

and 2008 election. so i think john boehner has some basis for saying that as the president has demanded, so do house republicans. popular vote for house republicans will probably come out something like 50-48, by which obama beat romney. that hasn't been fully tabulated yet. back about 20 years ago, circa 1990, political scientists and pundits said republicans have a lock on the presidency and democrats had a lock on the house. they had all sorts of good reasons why this was so. the democrats picked the lock on the presidency in 1992, republicans broke the lock on the house in 1994. starting with this election, democrats have won four of the six presidential elections and won a plurality of popular vote in another. republicans have won majority in six out of eight elections for the house representatives. so, this is, no, eight out of 10. in the house of representatives. looking back from 2014 them back 20 years to 1994, we will have had during that period or 10 years a democratic president and republican house. two things that people in 1990 said could never happen. so it's something like t

obama sits down with can john boehner to help save our country from recession. how does that go. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly couldn't pass the house. >> so will they be able to compromise and how will they do this? your second amendment rightts at risk. what the president just signed that has many people worried. >> steve: we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache re

to doing the attempt at the grand bargain with john boehner. he thought he was going to get that. i think when boehner pulled back and could not deliver a single republican vote for a tax hike, i think that was instructive for obama that these guys are never going to cooperate for me particularly on taxes. there's a much more pop pew louse tone. my guess, this is a guess, but my guess is this is a bottom line issue to him. it bothers him. it really bothers him how they behaved with the debt ceiling. he looks at this as it's not going to happen again. all the tax hikes and cuts will go away and i can propose the obama tax cut for 98% of americans. >> it's interesting. there is this other place where i buy that the press is a process president and would argue for it on domestic politics. he is a a different duck in the foreign policy land. many liberals would have a critique of some of his lack of process in some of the foreign policy stuff. is part of what he's saying that the recalcitrance of the republican house might bring out that aspect of president obama? >> well, i think there are t

to be here. thank you so much. >> thanks so much. >>> a fiscal cliff, it's coming and if obama and boehner don't compromise, could mean economic disaster, but some lawmakers say hey, there's no rush. actually, we should go over that fiscal cliff. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. >>> people are counting down the days until the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. the tax cuts and cu

and center in these talks with speaker john boehner. >> all right. chuck todd at the white house this morning, thanks. john meacham is a pulitzer prize winning historian and author of the new book "thomas jefferson the art of power." good morning. >> thank you, sir. >> tell me about what's going on in washington right now. everyone is saying the right things. president obama said a couple days ago i'm looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders in both parties to meet our challenges. john boehner said we are ready to be led. is this just honeymoon talk or do the american people have reason to believe things might be different in a second term? >> a lot of it's honeymoon talk. this is the natural result. the president wants to appear magnanimous in victory. the speaker, whose party just lost, wants to be clear that practically he understands that the country voted for an incumbent president as opposed to the nominee of his party, so it behooves him at this point to make the right noises. but it's still friday. sometimes bipartisanship in washington is a little like what mark twain

rejected the mitt romney, john boehner solution for tax reform. >> what i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're going to sort of, kind of raise revenue through dynamic scoring or closing loopholes that have not been identified. and the reason i won't do that is because i don't want to find ourselves in a position six months from now or a year from now, where lo and behold, the only way to close the deficit is to sock it to middle class families. >> now, that is the classiest way i have ever seen anybody say, you know what, somebody's got to pick up the bar tab, boys. this is what president obama ran against in the presidential election. mitt romney's approach to tax reform was, trust me. the american public wanted specifics. and president obama continued to give specifics today, but the economy wasn't the only thing on the president's mind today. earlier in the day, here's another development. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice came under fire from republican senators. senators john mccain and lindsey graham, back at it, trying to trump up the ambassador

not talked about that. this is why it is going to be really hard to get to a deal. john boehner has the toughest job in washington. he is the ringleader. it is a complete three ring circus. >> did you want to jump in net tathere? >> we have read similar articles. they're all kinds of ideas and theories out there. the position of the house is that we would like to resolve this before the end of the year. if you let sequestration takes of that, there are things that need to be done specifically with the war act. you have to know your employees are at risk for losing their jobs. that window has long since passed. the department of labour put memos out to significant employers. no need to notify your employees. if you are going to take that risk, there is a lot of things that need to have already been done. from the position of the house, our intent is to resolve the fiscal clip with respect to sequestration as well as taxes before the end of the year. >> let's take another couple of questions. >> >> and the congressional correspondent for the hispanic outlook on higher education. i am

boehner and all the others got re-elected, as well? >> if you still believe in hope and change, it's amazing that the american people elected the same configuration which is basically a check and balance system that is going to make it hard to do anything no matter by what margin obama won. >> jon: how does the yeid cover the next four years? you have obamacare finally being implemented. economy is still in the doldrums. what is going to be the headline? >> i think it will be focused on the intransigence of the house. not moving to meet obama in the middle. >> i totally agree with that. i would also add as of friday, there was a website that was showing major corporations from boeing to bristol-myers and many others beginning to lay off substantial number of workers. will that be bliapd on obamacare? i don't think so. >> another thing looking ahead, sharon waxman from the "new york times" who runs a website. this is hollywood's victory. they won on gay marriage. they won on marijuana, they won on abortion. this is hollywood vision of the country just won a huge victory. >> jon: the

months. maybe some of it rubbed off on him. we heard words from john boehner. we'll see if it's followed by action. we're talking about we're ready to sit down and make a deal. we'll follow your lead, mr. president. we want to bring in mike allen down in "politico's" newsroom. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> there have been a lot of grand claims and proclamations over the past 36 hours. the republican party's dead. they can't recover. they've lost latinos forever. texas is a swing state now. put it in a little perspective for us. how bad are things at this moment? >> well, republicans recognize that things are really bad, as we've heard from the conversation here. they think that it's in freefall, and there's so many different parts that all have problems. you've talked about the demographic problems, this problem with the donors who gave a billion dollars, the outside group structure is clearly broken. >> that didn't work well. >> no, and i'll tell that you donors are angry about it. and somebody told me yesterday, donors -- and joe, you'll appreciate this -- donors are scorekee

." amen to that. chaplain lives says "it looks like speaker john boehner had a case of anesthesia when he spoke today, already forgetting that americans rejected romney's promise to raise revenues for the rich." and fun pundit thinks that "fox followers became insulated in their skewed data. they failed to face the will of the people." keep sharing your thoughts with us @edshow using #edshow. >>> still to come, dick morris predicted a romney landslide in his lunch alerts leading up to the election. he's eating some really raw crow, i'd say. >>> and we are back. you know, for weeks we've heard the right-wing noise machine tell their audience, you know, don't worry. everything's going to be okay. romney was going to win. don't pay attention to the polls. they all had their own ways of getting around the numbers. karl rove used his whiteboard, donald trump took to twitter, limbaugh was limbaugh. their narrative was, the numbers are skewed. expect a romney upset, or in the case of dick morris, a romney landslide? and no one was adamantly as wrong as dick morris. >> one idiot who writes for "n

, who got re-elected, he said i'm not going along with that. >> and do you agree with me boehner and the republicans need to hold the line? >> i'm in favor of one that will have more revenue by economic growth. >> open up drilling. wouldn't cost the taxpayer a dime. thanks for being with us. coming up, an actress that dared to announce she was voting for mitt romney and paul ryan. she joins us next. and dave gutfeld debuts his new book, the joy of hate. straight ahead. it'that time of. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. citi price rewind. ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >> no secret

w. bush? he said forget it do you agree with me? boehner and republicans need to hold the line? >> yes. but i'm in favor of tax reform that will generate more tax revenue by economic growth. >> and karl rove, thanks for joining us. coming up next, actress melissa joan hart felt the wrath of the country life she dared to announce she was voting for mitt rom fee. and greg gutfeld debuts his new book, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] they're here! the hottest new machines of 2013, just in time for the polaris holiday sales event. get financing as low as 2.99% and side-by-sides including the new twenty-thirteens. plus rebates up to one thousand dollars on select twenty-twelves. incredible deals on... legendary sportsman... powerful rangers... and razor sharp razors. financing as low as 2.99% and rebates up to one thousand dollars ends december 31st. get all the detas at polaris.com. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowe

on your jobs, not ours. >> reporter: the president and house speaker john boehner each are drawing a line in the sand over letting the bush era tax cuts expire for americans making more than $250,000 a year. >> instead of raising tax rates on the american people and accepting the damage it will do to our economy, let's start to actually solve the problem. >> reporter: the speaker wants a tax overhaul that raises money by cutting loopholes. if they can't hammer out a spending deal by year's end, the nation goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. taxes go up for everyone. an average of almost $3,500 per household. and there will be deep automatic spending cuts in both domestic spending that could hobble the economy. they want the president to address the real problem. >> and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending, and the government that has grown massively. >> reporter: democrats say republicans are going to have to compromise. just like the president and his party did after getting walloped in the 2010 elections. >> we cut $900 billion in spending that we didn't like, painful

? third two questions that john boehner. number one, is he temperamentally willing to go in legislate, especially if he gets major concessions from the president. i think it and i got the answer is yes. that leads to the second question. can he bring his caucus along? yes, couple of leading tea party members of the house republicans majority were defeated, at the caucuses as conservative as it was before last night. i don't know the answer, we have tissues that could really divide us. immigration come or the president is going to move ahead very quickly. i did attend the wednesday one deal every republican presidential candidate said they would not accept. it may not be tenderloin. maybe four to one or 51, the republicans get at least 80% of what they want. the question is can they say yes to 80% of what they want? the final one is the supreme court. especially, what happens if antonin scalia or anthony kennedy retires? forget ruth bader ginsburg. they should see what happens, even if there's a mainstream nominee. or what if president obama aims the first asian-american justice to the

'm encouraged that speaker boehner is making some conciliatory comments. >> stephanie: here is john boehner yesterday. >> there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it's a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to any challenges that we all face as a nation. >> stephanie: now? now you are going to try to work -- this just make you shake your head having been in the trenches there for the last few years. >> it does. one thing that will change the dynamic is for all of those in the gop leadership who's soul reason for being seem to be denying the president to second term, stop him from accomplishing anything if they could. obviously that motivation is gone. so hopefully that will make them a little more willing to come to the table. i was a little bit struck by something when the speaker talked about this being the president's moment -- the president's time. it seemed to me that this is a shared responsibility. he should be saying, rather it's our time to come together and make this happen rather than we're going to wait for you, mr. president.

john boehner, have shifted in recent days, and they are talking more about their openness, much more so than they were before the election. they are saying that they are open to revenue, but only in the formal closing loopholes, not raising rates. host: the front page of "politico," you can check that out. stephen sloan, what is the likelihood that both sides agreed to a short-term deal or a long-term deal in the last 50 days of the lame-duck session? host: -- caller: people want a deal, but the question is if both sides can take the pain that it will take to get to the deal. i am not sure that either side is willing to take that kind of pain. you could still go over the cliff. host: anything else on the agenda this week, as negotiations kickoff? caller: tomorrow night this will be the first time that lawmakers are on capitol hill since september. basically, lawmakers will be talking amongst themselves about negotiations with the white house. host: stephen sloan, thank you so much for joining us this morning. caller: thank you. host: we're going now to tom, from columbus, ohio. we're di

boehner wants a temporary deal that extends all the bush tax cuts and buys more time. democrats don't want to extend attach cuts at all even temporarily. we know going over the cliff would throw us into a recession but experts say if it's reversed within a couple weeks it wouldn't be catastrophic. if the two sides cut a deal referred to as the grand bargain, it's preferable in theory, but with democrats and republicans so far apart, it is unclear what we might have to sacrifice in order to get that bargain. third, the two sides could negotiate around the issue of taxes. this is a little more complicated, unclear how it might work. there would be some sort of trade-off and it seems unlikely. the fourth possible scenario, create a patch to get us through the start of the year, which is a short term extension of the status quo something republicans would like, because it extends the bush tax cuts. president obama did that once in 2010 and is not willing to do it again. finally, we could procrastinate with a little down payment sending the message we will get to it. it would be a small package

. and then we need to deal with the longer-term issue next year. the groundwork is laid. president, john boehner, harry reid, and senator mcconnell -- you can't do in three and half weeks a half weeks what needs to be done. the next year is that moment of opportunity. and i think the work is being done and i think this will help get a result. >> when he does come back and say, i was disappointed when the president come after simpson-bowles, didn't really embrace it and i don't know that we would've adopted it, but it would have been the least possible. it is because the president has been reelected after a very tough campaign. the republicans have been upset by the results of the campaign and you have the raw personal material for this to work out to everyone's benefit. he is very much smart and very effective. >> inner has to get the votes. he calls for both it only gets a vote on his conference committee has problems of his own. .. >> maybe the world economy would collapse if we didn't deal with it, it was taken tonight house of representatives r and it was defeated, and they timely got it pas

boehner says under the right conditions might be able to bargain. what are those? guest: i am cautiously optimistic that we will find some solution in a time. i think it would be irresponsible, a big it would be responsible for the president or either party to voluntarily drive off of the cliff. i think the key is that we want a smart balance to get the economy going, generate more revenue, as well as smart spending cuts. we really think those are conditions that actually get the economy going. and ensure our investors that we are serious about getting our financial house in order. i think working with the tax code is critical. i do not how -- see how we do this without during the fundamental tax reform. it the economy over the past three years had just been an average recovery, back where we were in 2009, our deficit would be cut in half this year. that goes a long way toward a balanced budget, with this we would get there, and fundamental tax reform is key to getting all of that capital off the sidelines, back to create the jobs we need pirouetting fundamental tax reform along with the

in the house will she stepped aside and looks pretty clear that john boehner is still going to be the speaker. i think actually the democratic pickups that may have emboldened the democratic leader pelosi to stick around, and actually i think this how women and minorities are much are believe the majority of the caucasus as well something she celebrates openly. but i think the question is for speaker john boehner who is last 45 days between a rock and a hard place. a lot of new members who i actually know lecture him when they were candidates about how republicans went back on their pledge in 2010 to hold the line on debt and retail obamacare. of course the second was largely out of control but the majority of the republican class found the tea party label as a liability voted to raise the debt limit. we may not have that kind of welcome were going forward in 2013. and i was struck when speaker john boehner said yesterday the higher tax rates are unacceptable to him. with all due respect it's not really his choice anymore. what's different about this environment is fax the tax rates, the bush

today john boehner, the speaker of the house has a news conference coming up. that will be a 5 p.m. eastern. we want to point out here on c-span2 coming up at 1:30 p.m., it will be the first news conference since the election for president obama. we'll have live coverage of that and take a phone call reaction as well. to austin, texas. now let's go to roseville -- i hope i got that right on the republican line. go ahead. >> caller: hi. i would like to say that nancy pelosi means leader, is horrible. she was leader last time. what she says and what she does is two different things. she spoke about when barack obama got elected the first, the first time in 2008, this is all going to be a about jobs, jobs, jobs, and they didn't focus on jobs. they pushed through the health care bill, and then she gets up there all the time. she is nervous, she's family, she's bumbling. she's just going to do what she wants but she doesn't look out for the people. she doesn't care. she just doesn't goes and pushes along the agenda and then health care bill, you have to pass it to find out what's in a

. the people outsmarted them." amen to that. "chapla chaplain lives says "it looks like speaker john boehner had a case of anesthesia when he spoke today, already forgetting that americans rejected romney's promise not to raise revenues for the rich." and fun pundit thinks that "fox followers became insulated in their skewed data. they failed to face the will of the people." keep sharing your thoughts with us @edshow using #edshow. >>> still to come, dick morris predicted a romney landslide in his lunch alerts leading up to the election. he's eating some really raw crow, i'd say. to help those i. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long experience thehas your ticket p

boehner had a case of anesthesia when he spoke today, already forgetting that americans rejected romney's promise to raise revenues for the rich." and fun pundit thinks that "fox followers became insulated in their skewed data. they failed to face the will of the people." keep sharing your thoughts with us @edshow using #edshow. >>> still to come, dick morris predicted a romney landslide in his lunch alerts leading up to the election. he's eating some really raw crow, i'd say. had to be slow. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use, it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. [ husband ] transfer! [ male announcer ] free data transfer at home. you just deleted all the photos! you did! no you did! [ male announcer ] or free data transfer when you buy a windows 8 computer at staples. another way staples makes it easier to upgrade. prego?! but i've bought

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